YES! I just got them printed today, so if you email me your address, i’ll send it to you! (email is sorchard AT ymail DOT com – and yes it’s a Y not a G!)
Hmm I don’t know if it’s so much a matter of taking the pretty one.. Marriage equality will ensure that same sex couples in the US have rights as far as obtaining their spouses pensions, the wills will actually be followed (many cases have happened where even though a partner leaves their living partner the house etc when they die, the partners family was able to contest the will because they werent legally married, so surviving partner was left with nothing.. Even after being together for decades).. Issues of hospital visitation, legal adoption etc all fall under this category and will be recognized once marriage equality is achieved 🙂
Yep, for sure – marriage equality helps to protect those in a same-sex/same-gender couplings. And is in some ways a super awesome step forward, and can help progress other issues too.
However, a lot of the arguments around marriage equality centre around arguments of the ‘we’re not different, we’re just like you’ variety; which can lend to increasing bigotry and oppression for those of us who are pretty different, and value that difference. Issues of racism, transphobia and biphobia aren’t often articulated or countered in the marriage equality debate.
Furthermore, the issues of adequate healthcare is not simply about visitation rights, rather the continued practice by medical professionals to engage in non-consensual invasive surgeries of young intersex children, and a paternalistic and often inconsistent approach by medical professionals when offering medical pathways for trans people. Not to mention the continued and pointed attacks on transwomen, and queer people of colour, the homeless queer youth problems, etc. etc.
I think it makes sense that marriage equality is the issue du jour, and has a lot to do with the fact that marriage is easier to legislate for, it also centres around a celebration, and is a much easier engagement tool. I think it’s great that this legislation is getting pushed through, and while it may pull some other rights along with it, it’s not going to drag solutions for other issues.
“… because we, as sapient beings, clearly lack both the ability to focus on more than one thing at any given point in time and to understand what moral victories are.”
I assume that’s what the comic would have said, but the black bar at the bottom was entirely too small.
Yes, just because it is not the one you wanted first means it’s the most irrelevant. You should have tried harder and won a different achievement than this one, Sam. While you undercut it, we’ll continue slowly working towards hard earned small victories that you could so effortlessly win single handed for us, but choose not to. Why is that Sam? Why have you not just “made it so”…? When you figure that out, maybe you will appreciate what others have been able to achieve so far for FOR YOU. How was that for my comic? I hope you learned something other than how to mock what what others are trying to do to make this world a better place while you sit and doodle.
Hey Seahn,
Cheers heaps for your comment, but I think you may have misinterpreted what I intended to get across with my comic. I think it’s awesome that we are making headways with marriage equality, and it is an important step forward for queer and trans rights. I certainly wasn’t intending to mock other people.
Rather, I was trying to get across that I think it’s important to look beyond marriage equality (which is to say that often the media takes this particular issue as THE one and only fight that queer and trans people are fighting for), at the other issues that we should also work towards.
I also wanted to comment on the fact that it makes sense that marriage equality is the issue du jour, as it can be promoted in a really strengths based way, i.e. it’s ‘pretty’, in that it often involves a wedding celebration. It’s a bit harder to do something similar with, say, queer bashing, or non-consensual surgeries on intersex children.
But, yes, I can see the comic could be read as mocking people invested in marriage equality, and that wasn’t my intention, so I’m sorry that it was read that way.
-Sam
First: When I saw this, I interpreted it as so: the marriage victory is only one victory amidst a dark canvas of issues that still need resolving. It’s a step. A good step. But the work isn’t done.
Second: I’m one of those cis-white-male-middle-class dudes. The type who grow up without any involvement or knowledge of these issues, let alone any experience.
When I first heard of things like homosexuality or transgender…ality? (sure, why not.) I thought “ew, how weird. What’s wrong with those people?” I never thought of it with hostility. But there was very much a mindset of “otherness”.
It’s reading through things like this webcomic that made me realize how ignorant I was. How damaging my attitude could have been to someone. And it wasn’t a quick realization. It took years.
People are people before anything else. I judged them knowing NOTHING, and my only saving grace for that is that I never had a reason to show that pathetic excuse for judgement. (That I can think of, anyway.)
What Sam does – it helps. If in no other way than to provide some solidarity for people undergoing similar events, and perspective for those who aren’t.
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Good news indeed, but I, for one, will not be entirely satisfied while marriage is still a legal institution.
ALL the hugs 🙁
Gotta take what wins you can and love them
*hugs*
Oh my god, so much THIS.
asgsagsfasd get out of my head, sam
A very good comic.
well
I’m waiting
where can I buy this as a print
Ha! I’ll put it up on my shop soon, and also I will send you one for free because you are amaaaazing
wh wh wh really?
YES! I just got them printed today, so if you email me your address, i’ll send it to you! (email is sorchard AT ymail DOT com – and yes it’s a Y not a G!)
Hmm I don’t know if it’s so much a matter of taking the pretty one.. Marriage equality will ensure that same sex couples in the US have rights as far as obtaining their spouses pensions, the wills will actually be followed (many cases have happened where even though a partner leaves their living partner the house etc when they die, the partners family was able to contest the will because they werent legally married, so surviving partner was left with nothing.. Even after being together for decades).. Issues of hospital visitation, legal adoption etc all fall under this category and will be recognized once marriage equality is achieved 🙂
Yep, for sure – marriage equality helps to protect those in a same-sex/same-gender couplings. And is in some ways a super awesome step forward, and can help progress other issues too.
However, a lot of the arguments around marriage equality centre around arguments of the ‘we’re not different, we’re just like you’ variety; which can lend to increasing bigotry and oppression for those of us who are pretty different, and value that difference. Issues of racism, transphobia and biphobia aren’t often articulated or countered in the marriage equality debate.
Furthermore, the issues of adequate healthcare is not simply about visitation rights, rather the continued practice by medical professionals to engage in non-consensual invasive surgeries of young intersex children, and a paternalistic and often inconsistent approach by medical professionals when offering medical pathways for trans people. Not to mention the continued and pointed attacks on transwomen, and queer people of colour, the homeless queer youth problems, etc. etc.
I think it makes sense that marriage equality is the issue du jour, and has a lot to do with the fact that marriage is easier to legislate for, it also centres around a celebration, and is a much easier engagement tool. I think it’s great that this legislation is getting pushed through, and while it may pull some other rights along with it, it’s not going to drag solutions for other issues.
“… because we, as sapient beings, clearly lack both the ability to focus on more than one thing at any given point in time and to understand what moral victories are.”
I assume that’s what the comic would have said, but the black bar at the bottom was entirely too small.
lol, yes, and I wasn’t sure how to spell sapient 😛
Yes, just because it is not the one you wanted first means it’s the most irrelevant. You should have tried harder and won a different achievement than this one, Sam. While you undercut it, we’ll continue slowly working towards hard earned small victories that you could so effortlessly win single handed for us, but choose not to. Why is that Sam? Why have you not just “made it so”…? When you figure that out, maybe you will appreciate what others have been able to achieve so far for FOR YOU. How was that for my comic? I hope you learned something other than how to mock what what others are trying to do to make this world a better place while you sit and doodle.
Hey Seahn,
Cheers heaps for your comment, but I think you may have misinterpreted what I intended to get across with my comic. I think it’s awesome that we are making headways with marriage equality, and it is an important step forward for queer and trans rights. I certainly wasn’t intending to mock other people.
Rather, I was trying to get across that I think it’s important to look beyond marriage equality (which is to say that often the media takes this particular issue as THE one and only fight that queer and trans people are fighting for), at the other issues that we should also work towards.
I also wanted to comment on the fact that it makes sense that marriage equality is the issue du jour, as it can be promoted in a really strengths based way, i.e. it’s ‘pretty’, in that it often involves a wedding celebration. It’s a bit harder to do something similar with, say, queer bashing, or non-consensual surgeries on intersex children.
But, yes, I can see the comic could be read as mocking people invested in marriage equality, and that wasn’t my intention, so I’m sorry that it was read that way.
-Sam
Two things.
First: When I saw this, I interpreted it as so: the marriage victory is only one victory amidst a dark canvas of issues that still need resolving. It’s a step. A good step. But the work isn’t done.
Second: I’m one of those cis-white-male-middle-class dudes. The type who grow up without any involvement or knowledge of these issues, let alone any experience.
When I first heard of things like homosexuality or transgender…ality? (sure, why not.) I thought “ew, how weird. What’s wrong with those people?” I never thought of it with hostility. But there was very much a mindset of “otherness”.
It’s reading through things like this webcomic that made me realize how ignorant I was. How damaging my attitude could have been to someone. And it wasn’t a quick realization. It took years.
People are people before anything else. I judged them knowing NOTHING, and my only saving grace for that is that I never had a reason to show that pathetic excuse for judgement. (That I can think of, anyway.)
What Sam does – it helps. If in no other way than to provide some solidarity for people undergoing similar events, and perspective for those who aren’t.
<3 thanks for this :D